Comments can be manually edited or deleted months or years after submission.
Reddit gives users near total control over their comments and submissions. I agree you have the right to your data, but disagree someone has the right to modify those minutes, those records of fact, to impact the data of other people in any way.Ī forum is a collective work, and the rules for a collective work are different to the rules of a personal work. Content on a forum is never detached from the content of others. The minutes of those things are a record of fact, that someone said something and someone else replied and said something else. Almost everything in a forum is a discussion, conversation, argument, debate, an interaction depending on the context of other people's content. Where do the lines start and end, if your content can stand alone then the issues are not there. did the other user have right through the control of their data to substantial modify the context of your data? To the point that the other person could create a personal liability for you? If you posted "I vote for this too" to some very sound proposal to allow changing of usernames, and then the original author changed the proposal to "Bestiality should be legal", thus suggesting to the world you support such a thing. Total control for you means denying someone else the right to delete this conversation.ĭo other users have the right to redefine your data by changing the context surrounding it? > I believe users should always be in control of their dataĭoes the person who made this submission have the right to delete it even though by doing so they delete your data?ĭo other users have the right to delete your data? The content will always survive, and then it's just implementation that dictates what deletion of an account really means for the given piece of software.
But ultimately the value of the forum to the people who will continue to use it is based on the collective work remaining intact.
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The question of how to handle work contributed to a collective work that is a forum is a sticky one. Liability just became a nightmare for the forum admin. The problem then comes that whilst the account may no longer exist in a meaningful sense, the content might still have personal identifiable information and will now be orphaned and detached from any meaningful record of ownership. So for a lot of forums deleting a user actually means keeping the user record but scrubbing it of identifiable information. To delete a user account whilst retaining the content created by the account breaks their software.
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The internals of most forum software is based on foreign keys or data structures that presume integrity of the data. This preserves the context of other people's content.īeyond that. Thus, most forums will ask for the right to reproduce your user content even after your account has been deleted. Changing the historical record affects the content of others. Most forum admins agree that you have the right to edit your content, but not to modify/affect someone else's. Taking this very conversation as an example if you deleted your account and your comment, mine now makes far less sense. The general stance is that a conversation is an audited history, and to change the historical record affects other people's content too by redefining the context. The reason for this is that a forum is a collaborative effort, a collective work, and the contributions of other people's content might only make sense in the context of yours. Your account and personal information may be deleted, but all of your comments, submissions, conversations, threads or whatever you call the collected bulk of user generated content will remain. Nearly all forums do this or some form of this.